In this module, we look at the person, life, and character of Socrates

In this module, we look at the person, life, and character of Socrates

PHI111 Discussion
Required Text: The Philosophical Journey: An Interactive Approach, Fifth Edition
ISBN: 9780073535876
Author: William F. Lawhead
Publisher: McGraw Hill
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1 Socrates Today: In this module, we look at the person, life, and character of Socrates. What if there were
a ' Socrates' in our society today, what kinds of questions might he ask? How would he be treated?
2 Logic & Fallacies: A fallacy is a defective argument, where the reasons for a conclusion may sound
compelling, but the justification is not present on the premises. We see this most often in the media, in the
news, commentary, and commercials. What was the last fallacy you encountered (be sure to name it and
be specific)? What was the context?
3 Response to:
I think that an individual that goes against society in any time period would be treated poorly because it
goes against the social norms. Whether it’s in today’s society or hundreds of years ago there will still
be individuals that support and those that do not support an individual asking the hard questions. It is
human nature to go against what is “uncomfortable” and for some people seeing others ask questions
that may falsify their own beliefs is something that they do not find comfort in. I believe almost all the
questions they would ask would be involving our society and the differences in morals that we see today
as compared to even 50 years ago.
4 Response to:
The most common fallacy I come across almost daily is, " they say" or some version of that
statement. I myself have used it in the past but have grown to dislike the term greatly. I hear it in
conversation and the news broadcasts almost daily. Researchers say…, professionals say…, they say…
Since I won't receive my book in the mail for couple more days I went to and found
fallacy described as a noun, plural fallacies.
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.:
2. That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.
4. Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render arguments logically unsound.
5.Obsolete, deception
I have bolded the definition that I feel pertains best to “they said”. I remember ones from my
childhood: They say if you drink coffee when your little it will stunt your growth, or they say if you

swallow gum it will stay in your system for seven years. Now I feel I must provide proof or else my
statements could be considered fallacies.
Chewing gum does not hang around in your body for seven years according to Adam Brandeberry,
Med IV (Ohio State College of Medicine) and John A. Vaughn, MD (Ohio State Student Health Services).
Mathew Hoffman MD, says that there is no good evidence to prove that coffee stunts growth.
5 Response to:
I believe there are plenty of people in today's society that question like Socrates. They just don't
have the fame of being an original pioneer in the development of the philosophy discipline. Socrates
had a slight edge in his humbleness though. He used his belief that he knew very little and turned it
around on others to bring light to their ignorance to humble their assertions. Most of our mass media
and political pundants are great at pointing out other people's lack of knowledge or logical fallacies.
One of his strengths was to be in search of true definitions not to necessarily answer the question
itself. Sometimes we argue with one another over things we have 't well established a definition to. I
like the pathway to defining terms before jumping off a cliff of assurity. If Socrates were here today he
would probably have a political talk show where he asked all parties to clarify where they got their info,
how they know those facts, how they sourced their perceptions of their worldview and religious
beliefs. I don't know that he would ever get to a strong answer but by defending, clarifying, and
defining our beliefs we are able to refine and purify our thoughts. I know I can have a bunch of
tangents thoughts floating in my head and the very act of following his Socratic Method helps organize
it in a more concise way. This is also helpful to understanding other angles rather than just jumping
down their throats.
The most recent Logical Fallacies I have encountered have been centered on Red Herring and Ad
Hominum with Gun Control in its relation to School Massacres. I feel we are led astray by big corporate
interests and encouraged that there is NO WAY to stop these from happening based on irrelevent facts.
We are led astray with words like "Liberty" and "Freedoms" and "Second Amendment" rhetoric and all
the while we are made to feel badly towards people as not being "Patriotic" who are supporting gun
law reform. I think we DO see models in England and Australia where they did get fed up with gun
massacres and did something about it and its worked for decades for them. I am saddened by the tone
set by a profit seeking gun imdustries making us feel we have no options but to buy more of their guns.
I think we have tried their way and its an utter failure based on our now weekly average of school
shootings. I think the most dissapointing part of this is they try to use false experts as their grounds for
this belief system. Its a contraversial topic and I could go on for days but I'll end with that.
6 Response to
{Socrates Today}
Well, to start off Socrates took it upon himself to challenge the prevailing ideas of his time. This
meant engaging in conversations with people that were quite enjoyable for everyone in the audience
except the person being interrogated. He relentlessly attacked premise after premise until he rooted
out the ignorance that belied a belief.
Also, I believe he would be still searching for the same answers and hence asking same old
questions. For his questions are fundamental and I don't think they will change according to time but
this is my perception.
Now, you ask how he maybe treated, I think he would be treated In "today's world", probably be
treated like he was quite a long time ago. Although he'd probably be hated by a majority of the world,
seeing as how he started arguments with everyone, and not to mention finished them also.
The use of television, and other things in our modern world would aid Socrates in the process of
being disliked, and it wouldn't surprise me if reporters wrote absolutely ridiculous stories about him,
who knows?
You have to realize he lived quite a long time ago when times were different, you really can't give

a prediction on this, and if you did, it would more than likely be wrong.
I wouldn't compare him to anyone personally.
{Logic & Fallacies}
Question? What was the last fallacy you encountered (be sure to name it and be specific)? What was the
Personally, I of late have not encountered a "falllacy", I believe if your meaning and I'm percieving this
towards me?
I usually don't associate with people that would spread slander or any "fallacies" of any sort towards me
personally… I honestly don't know what to say.
I'm a persona who keeps to herself, and pritty much alyaws have, it's almost impossible for me to
experiance this.
Thank you for your time,


Academic LevelCollege (1-2 years: Freshmen, Sophomore)
Subject AreaPhilosophy
Paper Type Research Paper
Number of Pages3 Page(s)/825 words
Paper FormatMLA
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